| [qadianism] Re: The Finality of Prophethood - Guidance of the|
By Rashid @emirates.net.ae
Mr Abdul Aziz
Of course AlHamdolillah I am totally honest when I am quoting from Mirza Ghulam's
books. I am answerable to Allah for whatever I have written on the Day of
Judgement. However if I make any error in translation, kindly point it out and I
will correct it.
I wish that you would be likewise honest in accepting the truth when it is
Abdul Aziz wrote:
> Dear Mr. Rashid: We should be honest when quoting from others' work. Mirza
> Sahib himself said that before Allah (SWA) revealed to him the he is the
> Issa and the Mahdi, he used to interpret 'khatam an nabiyyeen' as the last
> prophet. You have quoted him before his announcement of being 'promised
Could you tell me the year of his announcement of his claim regarding Promised
Messiah? I think it was 1891.
> You would not find such meanings in his later writings.
The books from which I have quoted the three words (Khatam-ul-Walad,
Khatam-ul-Khulafa, Khatam-ul-Anbiya) are Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 5 which was
written in 1905 and published after the death of Mirza Ghulam in 1908 and
Kishtee-e-Nooh which was printed on 5th October 1902. PLease note that the word
Khatam-ul-Anbiya was used in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 5 and the meaning taken by
Mirza is: THE LAST PROPHET. Note that this was at least 14 years after he
proclaimed to be the Promised Messiah when God has supposedly told him the correct
meaning, as you have implied.
> But this
> is not something that happened to Mirza Sahib only. All prophets had
> performed social mores as were existing. For exampl, the prophet had eleven
> wives but did not get another wife when Allah (SWA) revealed the limit to
> him. Similarly the status of the prophet was a nabi first and then
> Allah(SWA) raised it to Rahmatullialameen.
I am sorry I do not see the relevance here.
> So please when you quote
> something, be honest and pay attention to for and against arguments.
> Otherwise your opinion is nothing but a biased piece, in research
> terminology they call it plagiarism. Now coming to the scholars I quoted.
> They had the same interpretation of 'khatamannabiyyeen' as the Ahmadis. Do
> you call them 'munkareen e khatam e nabuwwat and kafirs' as you call
> Ahmadis. Please state on this site clearly that these ulema, such as Maulana
> Nanautvi, Maulana As- Sherani, Sh. Wali Ullah Delhvi' and all others who
> agree with Ahmadiyya interpretation are kafirs. Your honest research based
> response will be highly appreciated.
Tell me which of these persons claimed to be a prophet or messiah or mahdi ?
> >Dear Mr Abdul Aziz
> >As an Ahmadi, the saying of your so-called 'prophet', Mirza Ghulam should be
> >more reliabale than any of the following scholars which you have quoted. Mirza
> >Ghulam Ahmad has used the word 'Khatam' in the following similar situations,
> >all having the same meaning:
> >1) KHATAM-UL-WALAD - the Last Son!
> >"I WAS KAHTAM-UL-WALAD (Seal of Son) FOR MY FATHER. NO CHILD WAS BORN AFTER
> >ME." (Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5, Roohani Khazain, vol. 21 p. 113)
> >2) KHATAM-UL-ANBIYAH - THE LAST PROPHET
> >"EISA Ibne MARYAM WAS THE KHATAM-UL-ANBIYAH FOR THE ISRAELITE PROPHETS."
> >(Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.267)
> >3) KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA - The Last Khalifa
> >"ACCORDING TO SPIRITUALITY I AM THE KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA IN ISLAM, JUST AS MASEEH
> >IBNE MARYAM IS THE KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA IN ISRAELITE CHAIN." (Kishtee-e-Nooh,
> >Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.17)
> >Above quotations from the books of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, clearly proves
> >that by the word 'KHATAM' Mirza Ghulam Ahmad meant 'FINAL' or something which
> >has been sealed. Question is WHY THE MEANING OF THE SAME WORD IS CHANGED when
> >it comes to KHATAM-UN-NABIEEN?
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