[qadianism] Re: The Finality of Prophethood - Guidance of the Messenger of Allah(SAW)
By Irshad @irshad.org

In the name of Allah(SWT) and May Peace and Blessings be upon 
Rasulollah(SAW), his family, companions, and sincere followers 
till the Day of Judgment.

> ahmadi_muslim:
> More with this "Finality of Prophethood"!  Don't you see 
> what not having the blessing of prophethood has done to
> you non-Ahmadis?

As a Muslim, I am perfectly happy to be a follower of the teachings
and sunnah of the Mercy to the Universe, the Prophet of Islam,

In my prior reply, under the topic of "The Finality of Prophethood
- Consensus of the Scholars", I expressed the view that continuity
of prophethood would not only be contrary to Islamic teachings, but
also a destructive idea for any movement.  This is why Allah(SWT),
in His infinite knowledge and mercy, has clearly closed the door to
prophethood for this ummah.  As I also pointed out, the Qadiani 
leaders have themselves quickly rejected every claimant to 

Perhaps, you will need to ask yourself about the alleged blessing 
the claims of Mirza Ghulam has brought to your movement.  Are those
who reject the clear Word of Allah(SWT) and Rasulollah(SAW), and 
blindly follow deceptive arguments of a group of self-serving 
individuals, anything but the most unfortunate of the people?

> Why do you not say the truth?  Here are just three examples
> of hadith which reject your ideas.

I doubt, in your rush to defend the faith you were born into, you
reflected upon the fact that your reply did not refute our Idara's
original posting.  Does it not disturb you, in the least, to know 
that there are over 200 ahadeeth, much like the ones we previously
quoted, which clearly point to the absolute finality of 
prophethood? Dear friend, no doubt you know that a believer is not
supposed to argue against Prophet(SAW)'s decree or accept whatever
part of revelation pleases him and reject the rest.

I am worried that by even trying to provide argument against what
Allah(SWT) and His Messenger(SAW) have decreed, you have committed
a great sin.  I advise you to reflect upon your situation: what 
will your defense be when you stand up for trial on the Day of 

Let us consider the evidence you have presented to see if it is
worthy of acceptance:

> 1. Prophet(saw) said:
> "If he (Ibrahim) had lived long, he must have become a
> true prophet."  (Ibn Maja, Kitab-ul-Janaiz)
> Obviously, there is no "Finality of Prophethood", else how
> could Ibrahim become a prophet?

The hadeeth you mentioned has been categorized by scholars of
hadeeth as unreliable.  This is due to the fact that the narrator
of the hadeeth has been repeatedly shown to have attributed 
inaccurate sayings to others.

Imam Nowawi (Al-Mauzaut-ul-Khabir, p. 58) and other scholars of
hadeeth have viewed him as a weak authority; Imam Tirmidhi said
that he was not reliable in hadeeth; Imam Nasi described him as
weak in Hadeeth; Imam Ahmad said that no weight can be given to
what he said; Imam Abu Hatim called him unreliable in hadeeth.
(Tahzibul Tahzib, Vol. 1, p. 144-145)

However, even if we assume this to have been a true hadeeth, it 
only serves to further prove the Finality of Prophethood.  The 
proper understanding of this quoted text would be that Ibrahim
was not to live, as the end of prophethood in Muhammad(SAW), had
cancelled that possibility.  Muslims understand this as qadar.

Please note that the "If" in this tradition is a conditional 
opening, which does not require it to have ever been possible. As 
an example, we can read the following verse of the holy Quran:

   "If there had been in these two gods other than Allah, these
    would have suffered anarchy and foulness." (Quran, Al-Anbiya)

Certainly, no reasonable individual would accept this as the sign
that there are, or have ever been, partners with Allah(SWT)! Then,
why would Qadiani leaders, expect us to accept their linguistic 
liberties with the unauthentic hadeeth they have routinely quoted?

Finally, there are other ahadeeth which explain this point in more
detail.  I hope that the following two serve to substantiate my
explanation and point out that what you had been taught by your
leaders has been wrong.
   "Had Ibrahim survived, he would have been a prophet but it 
    was not to be that he should live as in your midst is the 
    last of the prophets." (Ibn Hajar: Fath-ul-Bari)

   "He (Ibrahim) died while he was small.  Had it been decreed
    that there be a prophet after him, his son would have lived,
    but there is no prophet after him."  (Bukhari, Ibn Maja)
> 2. Hazrat Ayesha Al Siddeeqah's, who the prophet(saw) told
> us to learn half our religion from, said:
> "Say that he is the Seal of the Prophets, but do not say that 
> there is no prophet after him."
> (Takmilah Majma'ul Bihaar, p. 85)
> Doesn't this prove that there is no "Finality of 
> Prophethood"?

Since hazrat Ayesha(RA) has been reported the following tradition
from the Messenger of Allah(SAW):

  "Prophethood will not continue after him except the harbinger 
   of good news.  They asked: what are the harbingers of good news,
   O Apostle of Allah.  He replied: virtuous and pious dreams a 
   Muslim sees or are shown to him."  (Musnad Ahmad)

It is unreasonable to think that she would have contradicted the
teachings of Rasulollah(SAW). In fact, the tradition you mentioned
has no authority and no basis and has been rejected by scholars of 
hadeeth for centuries.  The author of "Takmilah Majma'ul Bihaar"
mentioned it without a reference or chain of narrators; thus, it
is viewed as unreliable and no scholar of any worth has ever relied
on it.

It is, however, in the tradition of misguided missionaries to dig
up such traditions and try to use them to misguide the uninformed.
As you know, simply because something has been written down, it 
does not mean it is true.  Many traditions known to be fabricated
and false were meticulously recorded by scholars, so that evidence
could be collected against their narrators and scholars of hadeeth
would have been able to identify undependable hadeeth.  Those who
look for crookedness, have much such concocted "evidence" they can
present in support of their arguments!  Christian and Jewish 
missionaries have used them to attack the fundamentals of Islam,
why would Qadiani leaders not do the same?

Nevertheless, to satisfy the objection of our Ahmadi visitors, who
appear to put much worth on this unsupported hadeeth, allow me to
quote the complete passage from Majmaul Behar:

   "Say he is the khatamul Anbia; don't say there is no nabi 
    after him; and she was keeping in mind descending of Jesus(RA)
    and this also does not contradict the hadeeth 'La Nabia Baad',
    as her intention was that no nabi can cancel his sharia."

Is it not a sign of dishonesty and deception that the Qadiani 
leaders and missionaries quote the first sentence of the passage, 
but leave out the rest of the passage which would explain the
spirit in which the author of the book, even bothered to write 
down this unsupported hadeeth?

> 3. "I am the akhar of the prophets and my mosque is the
> akhar of the mosques." (Sahih Muslim)
> We Ahmadis believe that just like masjid nabi is not the
> last mosque to be built, he is also not the last prophet.
> The meaning of khatam in Quran is the same as akhar here.
> Both mean, the best or the most exalted.

Dear friend, as apparent from the ahadeeth our Idara initially
provided, we should know that the Messenger of Allah(SAW) 
expressed himself in a such a clear way which leaves no doubt to
his being the absolute last prophet and messenger to be 
commissioned to humanity.  This was the opinion of Sahabas and 
has been that of every Muslim scholar of repute throughout 
history.  Obviously, it is not wise to leave all the clear 
evidence and accept the conjecture of some bias individuals.

Fortunately, this is an authentic hadeeth (the only one) in the 
list you provided.  But, the interpretation given by Qadiani 
leadership is wrong.  First of all, allow us to understand their

   Since new mosques are built every day, "akhar" in the second
   part of the hadeeth does not carry its dictionary meaning of
   "last", but "best"!!  By analogy, the same meaning is given to
   the first part of the hadeeth!  Thus, the hadeeth, according to
   Qadiani leaders, means:
      "I am the most exalted prophet and my mosque
       is the highest regarded place of worship".

Sadly, in inventing such an arguments, Qadiani leaders have 
willfully committing several major fallacies which I shall,
enshaAllah, try to expose and refute below.

 1. Qadiani leaders have ignored a great fallacy in their line
    of argument.  In fact, as Allah(SWT) and his last Prophet(SAW)
    have indicated, the "highest regarded place of worship" for 
    Muslims is the Baitullah, in Mekkah, and not the Masjid-e-
    Nabavi,in Madinah.  The Messenger of Allah(SAW) has himself 

       "Prayer in this mosque of mine is better than a
        thousand prayers (observed in other mosques)
        besides it, EXCEPT that of Masjid al-Haram."
                (Bukhari, Muslim, Malik)

    Could someone who claims to be a Muslim have an interpretation
    which contradicts what the Messenger of Allah(SAW) has himself

    Since the premise of Qadiani leaders has been proven wrong, 
    their entire argument is to be rejected.

    Individuals who advance these type of deceptive arguments are 
    obviously trying to capitalize on the love we Muslims feel for
    our prophet, Muhammad(SAW), and lend an appearance of support
    to their unfounded ideas.  Yet, their unwarranted inventions
    are in fact a clandestine attack on the very mission and 
    perfect role of our beloved prophet(SAW).  Their inventive and
	new interpretation are their claim to be uniquely understand 
	the "Spirit" of revelation is the same argument advanced by 
	Jewish and Christian leaders to justify their position against
	that of Allah(SWT)!  May Allah(SWT) protect us from making a
	similar mistake.

 2. Qadiani leaders ignore other clear ahadeeth telling us that 
    no new prophets will come.  For instance:

      "My position in relation to the prophets who came before
       me can be explained by the following example: A man 
       erected a building and adorned this edifice with great
       beauty, but he left an empty niche, in the corner where
       just one brick was missing. People looked around the 
       building and marveled at its beauty, but wondered why a
       brick was missing from that niche? I am like unto that 
       one missing brick and I am the last in the line of the
          (Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad, Babu
           Khatimin-Nabiyyin, Musnad Abu Dawud Tayalisi)

    More on this topic may be found on:

    Dear friend, Muslims are advised to always remain on the alert
    and avoid falling pray to conjecture and satanic suggestions,
    especially when clear guidance has been made available.  As 
    Allah(SWT) has said about the unbelievers:

     "Most of them follow not but conjecture. Assuredly conjecture
      can by no means take the place of truth.  Lo! Allah is Aware
      of what they do." (The Holy Quran, 10.36)

    When we have numerous clear ahadeeth and Quranic injunctions 
    regarding a topic, would it not be a grave mistake to ignore 
    the constant message and accept the conjecture of those with
    ulterior motives?  Obviously, the answer is a resounding yes.

    However, some unfortunate people are more concerned with 
    upholding in the path of their fathers than recognizing the
    truth and the clear message of Allah(SWT).  Sad will be 
    their destiny, as Allah(SWT) has decreed:

       "Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of
        right - them will I turn away from My signs: Even if 
        they see all the signs, they will not believe in them;
        and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not
        adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error,
        that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected
        our signs, and failed to take warning from them."
           (The Holy Quran, 7.146)

    I hope you are clear on the danger of relying on unfounded
    interpretation of some hadeeth or Quranic verse, particularly
    when these conjectures clash with clear message of authentic
    revelation dealing with the same topic.  Allah(SWT)'s guidance
	is not and can not be confusing or contradictory.

    Since there is so much evidence supporting absolute finality
    of prophethood, the conjecture of Qadiani leaders has to be 

 3. Qadiani leaders do not speak of other similar ahadeeth which
    clarify the intent of this hadeeth.  For instance, there is a
    hadeeth which quotes the last prophet, Muhammad(SAW), having 

       "I am the last of the Prophets and my mosque is the last
        of the mosques of Prophets."
             (Kanzul Ummal, Faslul Hramain, Vol. 6, P. 256)
    Please note how the last word is "of Prophets".
    This hadeeth should clear up the matter.  After all, is there
    anyone whose interpretation is more valid than that of the 
    Messenger of Allah(SAW)?  After this, is there any room left
    for conjecture and interpretation?
    Since the Messenger of Allah(SAW) has clarified the matter, the
    unfounded interpretation of Qadiani leaders is to be rejected.
 4. Qadiani leaders are hoping that their followers do not discover
    another well known authentic hadeeth which, once more, may be 
    used to reject their invention.  It reads, 
    The Prophet(SAW) said:
        "The whole earth is made Mosque for me." (Muslim)

    In fact, a masjid is any place used by Muslims for the purpose
    of offering prayers (it does not have to be a building). Since
    the entire earth is a mosque for the Prophet(SAW), then there 
    remains no room for anyone else to claim a different place of 
    worship for a new prophet or messenger.

    Using this authentic hadeeth and other Quranic text, we can 
    also see that the meaning of the hadeeth coincides with one
    we earlier quoted:

       "I am the last of the Prophets and my mosque is the last
        of the mosques of Prophets."

    The second part of the hadeeth (my mosque is the last of the 
    mosques), in fact reinforces the idea that no new prophet or
    messenger will be sent to humanity and no new place or method
    of worship, founded by a new prophet, will be established.

    Once more, the conjecture of Qadiani leaders has to be rejected,
    in light of what the Messenger of Allah(SAW) has said.

 5. According to the traditions in Bukhari and Malik, there are 
    three mosques on earth of high importance:
       1. Baitullah, at Mekkah;
       2. Baitul-Maqdis, at Jerusalem;
       3. Masjid-e-Nabavi, at Madinah;

    Indeed, these are the only mosques with special blessing, in 
    the sense that prayer in them offer thousands of times more 
    reward than prayer in any other mosque.  For this reason, and
    according to other authentic hadeeth, we are permitted to 
    undertake a journey to pray in these mosques.
    The Messenger of Allah(SAW) has said:

       "Do not prepare yourself for a journey except to
        three Mosques, i.e. Al-Masjid-AI-Haram, the Mosque
        of Aqsa (Jerusalem) and my Mosque."     (Buhkari)

    Other ahadeeth tell us that these locations where established 
    as places of worship (mosques) in the following order:

        1. Baitullah, at Mekkah;
        2. Baitul-Maqdis, at Jerusalem;
        3. Masjid-e-Nabavi, at Madinah;

    I hope that you see that by relying on this line of reasoning,
    we see that the original hadeeth is once more a proof for the
    Finality of Prophethood.  In effect, since the prophet(SAW) 
    is the last of the prophets, no fourth special mosque will be
    ever built which could offer similar blessings.  Indeed, 
    Masjid-e-Nabavi was the last of these special places of 

    Once more, the interpretation of Qadiani leaders has been 
    shown to be without any basis.

It is interesting to note that Mirza Ghulam claimed that his 
mosque and his village of Qadian to, nauzobillah, have held the
same worth in the eyes of Allah(SWT), as Mekkah and Madinah.  
Please read the following article, for references:

So, once more, every reasonable individual should be able to see
through the false argument of the Qadiani leadership, and their
empty attempt at misinterpreting this hadeeth.

In light of what we have seen, I hope you too realize that the 
Qadiani leadership is far removed from the truth and teachings of
the Messenger of Allah(SAW).   While they claim to be full of
love for the Messenger of Allah(SAW), their disregard for the 
teachings of Prophet Muhammad(SAW) in fact proves their true
stance.  It is noteworthy that, by putting forth these and other
deceptive arguments, they have only managed to seal their own 
destiny, as the Messenger of Allah(SAW) has said:

  "Ascribing false things to me(SAW) is not like ascribing false
   things to anyone else. Whosoever tells a lie against me 
   intentionally then surely let him occupy his seat in Hell-Fire."

(c) Idara Dawat-o-Irshad.

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