How does it change when it comes to the Holy Prophet (SAW): How
Rashid???? Where does it say in Hadith that my being Khatum is
different fro m the past Khatum's????? No where: give evidence, and we
shall here. 
Wassalaam,
Farhan


---Rashid < rasye-@emirates.net.ae > wrote:
>
> Abdul Aziz wrote:
> 
> > Mirza Sahib after being appointed the Mahdi and the Messiah always used
> > 'khatam an nabiyyeen' to mean the last law bearing prophet and not the
> > last in time prophet.The references you have given (I do not have those)
> > are to be interpretted in the same spirit.
> 
> Let me remind you again:
> 1)  KHATAM-UL-WALAD - the Last Son!
> "I WAS KAHTAM-UL-WALAD (Seal of Son) FOR MY FATHER. NO CHILD WAS BORN AFTER
> ME." (Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5, Roohani Khazain, vol. 21 p. 113 written in
> 1905 and published after the death of Mirza)
> 
> 2)  KHATAM-UL-ANBIYAH - THE LAST PROPHET
> "Some of the prophecies in the early books of God regarding Hazrat Eisa AS
> have similar meaning to this prophecy (of Mirza) in which it is mentioned that
> Jews will not accept him. As has also been mentioned in Injeel with reference
> to these prophecies that the stone they had rejected was in fact the corner
> stone, that is, He (Eisa Ibne MARYAM) WAS THE KHATAM-UL-ANBIYAH FOR THE
> ISRAELITE PROPHETS ........similarly God has told me that they reject you but
> I will make you KHATAM-ul-KHULAFA." (Braheen Ahmadiyya part 5,  Roohani
> Khazain vol.21 p.267)
> 
> 3)  KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA - The Last Khalifa
> "ACCORDING TO SPIRITUALITY I AM THE KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA IN ISLAM, JUST AS MASEEH
> IBNE MARYAM IS THE KHATAM-UL-KHULAFA IN ISRAELITE CHAIN." (Kishtee-e-Nooh,
> Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.17. Written in 1902)
> 
> Don't you think that the meanings have been changed by him according to his
> (Mirza) convenience?
> The same words (Khatam) when used for Hazrat Eisa AS, meant to be the last
> prophet but
> when it comes to the Holy Prophet, the meanings changed! Mind you this word
> was used for
> Hazrat Eisa AS in 1905, where as Mirza claimed to be Messiah in 1891.
> 
> >  Now to your confusion regarding
> > the example of Prophet Myhammad having 11 wives and not marrying any more.
> > My point is that all prophets are born in existing societies. They follow
> > the traditions and customs (unless they are sins. God saves them) of the
> > society. In Arabia the number of wives was not limited. In this spirit the
> > Prophet married 11 wives. However, when God revealed a restriction on the
> > number of wives to 4, the Prophet desisted from marrying any other.
> 
> Your example is not valid at all. Cheh nisbat khaak raa ba A'aam-e-Pak.Anyway
> please note these facts:
> 
> The verse of Holy Quran which deals with restriction of numbers of wives is
> Surah Nisa (4) verse 3. This was applicable only to the Muslims and not on the
> Prophet SAAW. This surah was revealed in Madina in the the FOURTH year of
> Hijrah. Several Companions of Rasoolullah SAAW had more than 4 wives and they
> were ordered by Rasoolullah to keep four and divorce the rest and they obeyed.
> There is no record in history that Rasoolullah divorced any of his wives.
> 
> Besides Holy Prophet SAAW married several times after this injunction came in
> Quran,
> 
> In 4 Hijrah, He SAAW married Umm-e-Salmah RA
> In 5 Hijrah, He SAAW married Zainab bint Hajash RA
> In 6 Hijrah, He SAAW married Juwairiyah RA
> In 7 Hijrah, He SAAW married Safia RA
> In 7 Hijrah, He SAAW married Umm-e-Habiba RA
> In 7 Hijrah, He SAAW married Maimoona RA
> 
> To summarize, from the age of 25 - 54 Rasooluulah remained married to one wife
> only.
> For another 4 years he remained married to Hazrat Sauda RA.
> At the age of 58, He had 4 wives.
> In the next 3 years he married others. Why He married so many, that is another
> topic.
> 
> > Exactly like this example, Mirza Sahib believed in Prophet Muhammad (SAS)
> > to be the last in time: because the Muslims, at least in India, believed
> > so. However, when God revealed to him that he was a nabi, and that this
> > status was given to him for his perfect obedience to God and Muhammad
> > (SAS), he followed this direction.
> 
> Really!
> 
> For your information Mirza, according to his statement, had been recieving
> revelations for several years that he is a prophet and yet he kept ignoring
> them.
> 
> "Although for the last 20 years I have been recieving inspirations, many a
> times they contained words Prophet (NABI) or Messenger (RASOOL) , but he is
> wrong who thinks that by this prophethood and messengership the real
> prophethood or messengership is meant."
> (The letter of Mirza, Akhbar alHakm, Qadian, No 29 vol.3 dated 17 August 1899)
> 
> "I have never claimed prophethood and have never told them that I am a
> prophet, but they have rushed and have misunderstood my statement..." (Roohani
> Khazain vol.7 p.296-297)
> 
> However in his later years, after 1901, his statements changed. Mirza Mahmud
> says:
> 
> "Earlier also (that is prior to 1901) he (Mirza) used to be addressed as
> 'NABI' but he used to interpret it (differently). But when repeatedly Allah
> addressed him in his inspirations as NABI and RASOOL, then he realised that he
> was really a NABI and not non-NABI as he used to think previously."
> (Haqeeqt-e-Nabuwwat, p. 124 by Mirza Mahmud, the 2nd Khalifa)
> 
> Imagine a prophet ignoring the calls from God for more than 20 years! Imagine
> the patience that God had with this prophet! 20 years is not a short time in
> the life of a 'prophet'. I wonder how you would justify that?
> 
> Wassalam
> 
> Rashid
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