[qadianism] Re: Refutation of Qadiani Quotes and Arguments - General Response
By umaraadil @excite.com

To the qadianis:

Please articulate for us the "lies" of Dr. Rashid. So far, the only lies
that I have seen have been those of the qadianis. And in the future, kindly
watch your mouths. Thank you.

On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), Abdul Aziz wrote:

> Dr. Rashid: You don't want Mubahila unless our Khalifa sits with you in a
> certain place. Unfortunately those people who are ignorant of the totality
> of the work our khalifa does can't see that such an exercise is futile.
> Particularly when all of us know that Dr. Rashid has fabricated so many lies
> that only God can help him. If I were the Khalifa, for sure I would prefer
> to preach Islam than sitting with you. Still you have a choice. Just
> announce that you have accepted Mubahila and then wait for God's decision.
> >Mr Aziz
> >I for one, has been repeatedly denied audience with your holiness, Mirza Tahir
> >Ahmad, the khalifa. His press secretary Mr Rasheed Chaudhary told me that who
> >am i, what is my worth? If it is the President of Prime Minister of Pakistan
> >then perhaps 'Huzoor' might see me.
> >
> >Once a a couple of years ago, I traced Mirza Tahir Ahmad in a house in USA,
> >where he was visiting. With great difficulty I even managed to convince the
> >lady of the house that this is very important indeed that I should speak to
> >'huzoor'. She gave the phone to him, I asked him are you Mirza Tahir? he said:
> >Yes. I said: I am Dr. Rashid, and I have repeatedly sent you letters, phoned
> >your office to make an appointment but you have not responded. Why? He was
> >stunned, his silence was deafening :) and then he just hung up, without a
> >single word.
> >
> >Is this what you call 'not scared of debate or talking' ? Your Khalifa is
> >scared of facing the muslims? He feels secured when he is talking on the
> >camera or in the presence of his blind followers. It has happened repeated in
> >Karachi and in other places, that whenever he is faced with opponents, who
> >expose the truth about Mirza Ghulam, he beats a quick retreat.
> >
> >Wassalam
> >Rashid
> >
> >Abdul Aziz wrote:
> >
> >> I am an Ahmadi Muslim (Alhamdolillah). I have requested non-Ahmadi Muslims
> >> to talk with me. I am not afraid, because Allah (SWA) says that truth
> >> smashes falsehood. If Mr. Irshad's idea that Ahmadis are afraid of
> >> discussing their beliefs with non-Ahmadis, then I should have or my
> >> leaders would have told me to remain aloof. You know what: the non-Ahmadi
> >> imam advised the non-Ahmadis to remain away otherwise they will be
> >> entrapped. I give you another proof that it is not the Ahmadis who are
> >> afraid to debate or discuss their beliefs. A number of non-Ahmadi ulema,
> >> in Pakistan, have forceably removed the MTA receivers fearing that
> >> non-Ahmadi neighbors will join the Ahmadiyya movement. Think who is
> >> afraid?
> >>

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