[qadianism] Re: Refutation of Qadiani Quotes and Arguments - General Response
By Ch. Muzafar Ah. Shiraz @okay.net

umaraadi-@excite.com  schrieb:
> To the qadianis:
> Please articulate for us the "lies" of Dr. Rashid. 
> So far, the only lies that I have seen have been those of 
> the qadianis. And in the future, kindly watch your mouths.
> Thank you.

Well The biggest lies and cusswords I have ever listened are
from your Mullahs, and you are going to  tell us to watch our

> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), Abdul Aziz wrote:
> > Dr. Rashid: You don't want Mubahila unless our Khalifa sits with you in a
> > certain place. Unfortunately those people who are ignorant of the totality
> > of the work our khalifa does can't see that such an exercise is futile.
> > Particularly when all of us know that Dr. Rashid has fabricated so many lies
> > that only God can help him. If I were the Khalifa, for sure I would prefer
> > to preach Islam than sitting with you. Still you have a choice. Just
> > announce that you have accepted Mubahila and then wait for God's decision.
> >
> > >Mr Aziz
> > >I for one, has been repeatedly denied audience with your holiness, Mirza Tahir
> > >Ahmad, the khalifa. His press secretary Mr Rasheed Chaudhary told me that who
> > >am i, what is my worth? If it is the President of Prime Minister of Pakistan
> > >then perhaps 'Huzoor' might see me.
> > >
> > >Once a a couple of years ago, I traced Mirza Tahir Ahmad in a house in USA,
> > >where he was visiting. With great difficulty I even managed to convince the
> > >lady of the house that this is very important indeed that I should speak to
> > >'huzoor'. She gave the phone to him, I asked him are you Mirza Tahir? he
> said:
> > >Yes. I said: I am Dr. Rashid, and I have repeatedly sent you letters, phoned
> > >your office to make an appointment but you have not responded. Why? He was
> > >stunned, his silence was deafening :) and then he just hung up, without a
> > >single word.
> > >
> > >Is this what you call 'not scared of debate or talking' ? Your Khalifa is
> > >scared of facing the muslims? He feels secured when he is talking on the
> > >camera or in the presence of his blind followers. It has happened repeated in
> > >Karachi and in other places, that whenever he is faced with opponents, who
> > >expose the truth about Mirza Ghulam, he beats a quick retreat.
> > >
> > >Wassalam
> > >Rashid
> > >
> > >Abdul Aziz wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am an Ahmadi Muslim (Alhamdolillah). I have requested non-Ahmadi Muslims
> > >> to talk with me. I am not afraid, because Allah (SWA) says that truth
> > >> smashes falsehood. If Mr. Irshad's idea that Ahmadis are afraid of
> > >> discussing their beliefs with non-Ahmadis, then I should have or my
> > >> leaders would have told me to remain aloof. You know what: the non-Ahmadi
> > >> imam advised the non-Ahmadis to remain away otherwise they will be
> > >> entrapped. I give you another proof that it is not the Ahmadis who are
> > >> afraid to debate or discuss their beliefs. A number of non-Ahmadi ulema,
> > >> in Pakistan, have forceably removed the MTA receivers fearing that
> > >> non-Ahmadi neighbors will join the Ahmadiyya movement. Think who is
> > >> afraid?
> > >>

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