[qadianism] Re: Refutation of Qadiani Quotes and Arguments - General Response
By umaraadil @excite.com
3:58pm
Sat
20
Feb

Once again, I ask you to articulate for us the "lies" of
Dr. Rashid. You have not answered the question. You have only 
dealt in an irrelevant accusation against the mullahs.  The 
mullahs are not here to defend themselves from your open-ended
accusation. Dr. Rashid is. So please tell us what these lies 
are, and stop using abusive language.

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:57:29 +0100, Ch. Muzafar Ah. Shiraz wrote:

>  umaraadi-@excite.com  schrieb:
> 
> > To the qadianis:
> >
> > Please articulate for us the "lies" of Dr. Rashid. So far, the only lies
> > that I have seen have been those of the qadianis. And in the future, kindly
> > watch your mouths. Thank you.
> 
> Well The biggest lies and cusswords I have ever listened are from your Mullahs,
> and you are going to  tell us to watch our mouth.
> 
> > On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), Abdul Aziz wrote:
> >
> > > Dr. Rashid: You don't want Mubahila unless our Khalifa sits with you in a
> > > certain place. Unfortunately those people who are ignorant of the totality
> > > of the work our khalifa does can't see that such an exercise is futile.
> > > Particularly when all of us know that Dr. Rashid has fabricated so many lies
> > > that only God can help him. If I were the Khalifa, for sure I would prefer
> > > to preach Islam than sitting with you. Still you have a choice. Just
> > > announce that you have accepted Mubahila and then wait for God's decision.
> > >
> > > >Mr Aziz
> > > >I for one, has been repeatedly denied audience with your holiness, Mirza Tahir
> > > >Ahmad, the khalifa. His press secretary Mr Rasheed Chaudhary told me that who
> > > >am i, what is my worth? If it is the President of Prime Minister of
> > Pakistan
> > > >then perhaps 'Huzoor' might see me.
> > > >
> > > >Once a a couple of years ago, I traced Mirza Tahir Ahmad in a house in USA,
> > > >where he was visiting. With great difficulty I even managed to convince the
> > > >lady of the house that this is very important indeed that I should speak to
> > > >'huzoor'. She gave the phone to him, I asked him are you Mirza Tahir? he said:
> > > >Yes. I said: I am Dr. Rashid, and I have repeatedly sent you letters, phoned
> > > >your office to make an appointment but you have not responded. Why? He was
> > > >stunned, his silence was deafening :) and then he just hung up, without a
> > > >single word.
> > > >
> > > >Is this what you call 'not scared of debate or talking' ? Your Khalifa is
> > > >scared of facing the muslims? He feels secured when he is talking on the
> > > >camera or in the presence of his blind followers. It has happened repeated in
> > > >Karachi and in other places, that whenever he is faced with opponents, who
> > > >expose the truth about Mirza Ghulam, he beats a quick retreat.
> > > >
> > > >Wassalam
> > > >Rashid
> > > >
> > > >Abdul Aziz wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I am an Ahmadi Muslim (Alhamdolillah). I have requested non-Ahmadi
> > Muslims
> > > >> to talk with me. I am not afraid, because Allah (SWA) says that truth
> > > >> smashes falsehood. If Mr. Irshad's idea that Ahmadis are afraid of
> > > >> discussing their beliefs with non-Ahmadis, then I should have or my
> > > >> leaders would have told me to remain aloof. You know what: the non-Ahmadi
> > > >> imam advised the non-Ahmadis to remain away otherwise they will be
> > > >> entrapped. I give you another proof that it is not the Ahmadis who are
> > > >> afraid to debate or discuss their beliefs. A number of non-Ahmadi
> > ulema,
> > > >> in Pakistan, have forceably removed the MTA receivers fearing that
> > > >> non-Ahmadi neighbors will join the Ahmadiyya movement. Think who is
> > > >> afraid?
> > > >>
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