[qadianism] Re: I need some answers
By Rashid @emirates.net.ae

Thank you Farhan. Yes I am aware of it.
But please when we are discussing in a forum, try to produce your
quotations rather than telling me or others, read such and such 

We were talking about the story of a Prophet and Syedna Ibrahim in
Surah Baqarrah whom Allah showed how He can bring back someone to 
life from dead.

However you said these were not true stories but were visions and
in proof you have now given us the reference of 12.4. Following 
is the text of this verse (12.4 according to Muslim and 12.5 
according to Qadiani counting of Quranic verses)

Ayah 4  Pickthall
When Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream
eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating 
themselves unto me.

Ayah 5  Pickthall
He said: O my dear son! Tell not thy brethren of thy vision, lest
they plot a plot against thee. Lo! Satan is for man an open foe.

Despite stretching my imagination to a breaking point I fail to 
understand how does this vision of Syedna Yousef proves that the
story in Quran about Syedna Ibrahim and another Prophet are also

I remind you once again Farhan, Jesus alive or dead, coming or 
not coming, will not make Mirza Ghulam any more truthful in his
claims. Please avoid side tracking the issue at hand -  whether 
Mirza Ghulam is truthful in his claims or not.



Farhan Qureshi wrote:

> Dear Rashid!!!! Our Qur'ans are not numbered different, we just use
> Bismillah as an AYAH of every Sura Al Qur'an!!!!! No other
> difference!!!!!!!
> ---Rashid < rasye-@emirates.net.ae > wrote:
> >
> > Please quote the verse here for everyone to read
> > since your verses are numbered differently than Muslim Qurans.
> >
> >
> >
> > Farhan Qureshi wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Rsahid Read the following verse to prove they were
> > > vissions:::::::::: 12:4 (without Bis millah as a Ayah) For Hadhrat
> > > Wassalaam,
> > > Farhan
> > >
> > > ---Rashid < rasye-@emirates.net.ae > wrote:

[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran)]
email:  rasye-@emirates.net.ae 

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