[qadianism] Re: No.1 Waahi of Mirza Lies of Dr Rashid
By Rashid @emirates.net.ae

Dear Ch. Muzafar
Assalamo alikum

Thankyou for enumerating my lies. But I hope that you will give
me the right to explain these statements which you think are lies.

I must apologise for a longish email but I think what I will do
is to split it into several smaller emails and deal the whole 
thing one at a time.

Before I take each of them separately, I declare (and I am sure
that the entire Muslim Ummah has the same belief) that whatever
is said, practiced, instructed and done by Holy Prophet Muhammad
SAAW during His lifetime and by His Khulafa-e-Rashideen and 
Righteous Sahaba, is an article of our faith, we attest to it,
irrespective of whether we have read it or not.

Similarly I hope that you, Ch Muzafar, as well as all other 
Qadianis/Ahmadis/Lahoris will agree that you attest to everything
that is written, said, or done by Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani and his
'khulafa' + 'sahaba' is an article of your faith, irrespective 
of whether you know about it or not.

Ch. Muzafar Ah. Shiraz wrote:

>  umaraadi-@excite.com  schrieb:
> > Once again, I ask you to articulate for us the "lies" of Dr. Rashid. You
> > have not answered the question. You have only dealt in an irrelevant
> > accusation against the mullahs. The mullahs are not here to defend
> > themselves from your open-ended accusation. Dr. Rashid is. So please tell us
> > what these lies are, and stop using abusive language.
> >
> >
> You want to know the lies, just read this:
> >From Dr Rashid´s homepage:
> I am sure you will agree with my following statements regarding your beliefs:
> D.Rashid You have your own prophet/messiah.
> My Answer: He is Messiah for whole World

I think there is no need for me to answer this charge. It is 
self-evident. However, Mirza serves as Messiah to those who 
have accepted him, and out of 6 billion people just a very small
proportion believes in Mirza.

Besides, Mirza Ghulam says that he is Messiah for Christians.

> D.R You have your own holy books (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and Tadzkirah).
> MA: The only Holy Book is The Holy Quran, these books are from him and we don´t
> ignore these books.

I am surprised Mr. Muzafar. Tazkirah is the collection of waahi
of Mirza Ghulam. The collection of Wahi on Rasoolullah SAAW is 
called Quran, Wahi on Hazrat Eisa AS is Injeel, Wahi on Moses 
AS is Torah.

Mirza has referred Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya in several places as if
it is a book from God:

  1. "In Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya, God has called me by the name
     of Ibrahim......"
     (Arba'een No.3, Roohani Khazain, vol.17 p.420)
  2. "I have said several times that according to the verse
     of Holy Quran 'wa aakhareena minhum...' as a Burroz I am the
     same prophet, the Khatemul Anbaiyyah, and GOD NAMED ME 
     (Aik Ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol.18, p.212)

This is what Mirza says about his own wahi:

  1.  "The basis for our claims is not Hadith but Quran and
     that Wahi which comes to me. Yes, in support we also present
     those Hadith which are according to Quran and DO NOT 
     LIKE A WASTE PAPER."(Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.140)

  2. "My teachings contain orders as well as prohibitions 
     and renovation of important injunctions of the Shari'at. 
     For this reason God has named my teachings and the 'wahi'
     (revelation) that comes to me as a 'boat. Thus see, God 
     has declared my 'wahi', my teachings and allegiance with
     me to be Noah's Ark and the basis of salvation for all 
     human beings. Let he who has eyes may see and he who has
     ears may hear."  (Arba'een, Vol. 4, footnote of page 6;
     Roohani Khazain, Vol. 17, p. 435).

  3. "And as I believe in the Quran, similarly without a 
     difference of a dot I believe in that WAHI which has come
     to me....and I can swear standing in the Holy Ka'aba that
     the Pious Wahi that comes to me is the Words of the same God
     who had sent it to Hazrat Musa and Hazrat Eisa and Hazrat 
     Muhammad pbuh." 
     (Eik Ghalti ka Azala, Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.210)

  4. "I say with swearing upon God that I beleive in these
     inspirations in the same way as I believe in Quran and 
     other books of God. And just as I consider Quran undoubtedly
     and surely the book of God, similarly I believe that that 
     wahi which descends upon me is the word of God."
     (Haqeetqatul Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.220)

  5. "I have similar faith in my Wahi as on Holy Quran and
     Torah." (Arba'een No.4, Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.454)

  6. "and the Word of God descended so much on me that if 
     it is collected it will not be less than 20 parts." 
     (Haqeeqatul Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.407)

  7. "Quran mentions that 'O Messenger! Convey whatever has
     descended upon you from your God' and the Book of Prophet 
     is that this 'whatever has desceded' is collected. Since 
     Hazrat Mirza Saheb is the Burooz and representation of ALL
     PROPHETS, his  'whatever has descended' is so extensive 
     that it is not less than any Prophet, rather morre than 
     most Prophets. Thus, praise be to Allah, that it proves 
     Hazrat Mirza Saheb to be the SAHEB alKITAB (Prophet with 
     (Akhbar AlFazl, Qadian, vol.6 No.22 dated 15th Feb 1919)
     Reply to other so-called lies in other posts.

>And now tell me Is he lieing or not? and you claim to Hazrat Masih Maood that he
>is NAUZOBILLAH lieing.

Anyone who find these quotations abhorrent, should truly ponder
about their real faith. You cannot deny the existence of these 
writings and you cannot claim to be a Muslim if you continue 
believing in such a person who has written these things. The 
solution my dear Ch. Muzafar, is not to label me a liar or to 
give explanation. Your repugnance and disgust should be directed
towards the man who wrote these things and not the one who is 
quoting. The only recourse left for you, if you believe yourself
to be a Muslim is to denounce this man, Mirza Ghulam.

> Have you guys see the guestbook of Dr. Rashid´s Homepage,
> ASTAGHFARULLAH which kind of Langauge the all Muslims using
> there.

Is it my fault, if someone pretends to be a Muslim and write bad
things? Besides, have you seen the language used by Mirza Ghulam
in his books? Please read the articles on my web page the details
of 'the prophetic langauge of Mirza Ghulam'.

Wassalam 'ala mun ittaba'a alhuda
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran)]
email:  rasye-@emirates.net.ae 

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