[qadianism] Re: No.3 Kalima-e-Tayyeba Lies of Dr Rashid
By Rashid @emirates.net.ae

Ch Muzafar saya:

>D.R: When you recite the Kalima-e-Tayeba, in your heart you
>believe that the person of Mirza is included in it
>MA:  The biggest lie which I ever heard in my life INNA

Now this is a tricky one :)

Qadianis/Ahmadis of course recite the same words of
Shahadah, but do they mean the same meaning or do they have
some other meanings in their hearts? Do they what the
writings of Mirza Ghulam and his immediate and close
successors indicate?

The following quotations from the books of Mirza Ghulam, the
founder of Ahmadiyya Movement, and his successors and
followers tell us a very different story. These quotations
also explain in part the strong reaction of the Muslim
masses towards Qadianis' recitation of 'The Kalima' with
tongue in their cheeks!

Most people would have seen Qadianis displaying Kalima, La
ilaha illa Llah Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah, in very bold and
big Arabic letters on their shops, houses, community
centers, publications etc., as if expressing their love for
it but perhaps trying, subconciously, to prove to themselves
that they are 'muslims'.

Question is: What is the difference between a Muslim
reciting the Kalima and a Qadiani reciting the same Kalima?

Whereas I have no doubt that many Qadianis are not aware of
these writings, but then ignorance is not a plea. Even so,
now I am informing you. Find out the truth yourself.

Qadianis/Ahmadis cannot claim that they do not know or that
they do not recite the 'Kalima' with the same conviction as
is implied in these quotations. It is their job to know all
this, or else denounce their faith in Mirza Ghulam.

Mirza Ghulam claims to be Hazrat Mohammad (saaw)

Mirza Ghulam says:

   * "'Mohammadur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m'ahoo, ashiddao
     'ala alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God
     has named me Mohammed and Messenger as well." (Roohani
     Khazain vol 18 p.207)
   * "Holy Prophet has two advents or in other words you can
     say that in one Buroozi way coming again of Holy
     Prophet (saaw) was promised which has been fulfilled by
     the appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi."
     (Roohani Khazain vol 17 p.249)
   * "Anyone who differentiates between me and MUSTAFA
     (pbuh), he has not seen me and has not recognized me."
     (Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.171)

Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam says:

   * "Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy
     Prophet pbuh, but it is He Himself who has come again
     in this world in Buroozi form..... therefore is there
     any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet again in
     Qadian?" (Kalimat Alfasl p.104-105, Review of Religions
     Qadian March 1915)

Mirza Ghulam says:

   * "I have said several times that according to the verse
     (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo
     behim' as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul
     Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and
     Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and declared me His
     Being."  (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18
   * "But the fact is that the spirituality of Holy Prophet
     pbuh (in the form of Mirza Ghulam) in this end of the
     sixth millenium, that is in these days, is much more
     stronger and perfect and forceful as compared to those
     (first) years, like a full moon." (Khutba-e-Ilhamiah,
     Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.271)

Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam said:

   * "Now it is clear that if rejecting Holy Prophet is KUFR
     then rejecting Promised Messiah should also be KUFR,
     because Promised Messaih is nothing seperate from Holy
     Prophet, but it is Him and if he who rejects Promised
     Messiah is not KAFIR then the rejector of Holy Prophet
     is also not Kafir, God forbid."  (Kalimat alFasl
     p.146-147 Review of Religion, Qadian, Mar-Apr 1915)

Mirza Ghulam said:

   * "The holy Prophet (saaw) had two births as a Prophet.
     In other words, we may say that it was promised that
     the Holy Prophet (saaw) would be born in the world once
     more (reincarnated) and this was fulfilled by the
     incarnation of the Promised Messiah and the Promised
     Mahdi". (Tohfa-e-Golravia, Roohani Khazain vol 17
   * "And Allah bestowed upon me the bounty of the holy
     Prophet and made it perfect, and he drew towards me the
     kindness and generosity of that merciful Prophet, so
     much so that my entity became his entity. Thus he who
     joins my Jamaat really becomes one of the Sahaba of my
     Chief who was better then all the Prophets. It is not
     hidden from those with the ability to think that this
     is what the words "others of them" mean. The person who
     differentiates between me and Mustafa (i.e. Holy
     Prophet pbuh) has neither seen me nor recognised me".
     (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, Roohani Khazain, vol.16,
   * "When I am the Holy Prophet incarnate and when all the
     accomplishments of Muhammad including the prophethood
     are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is
     the man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being
     ?"  (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212)
   * "Thus does any doubt remain that God has sent Muhammad
     (pbuh) again in Qadian to fulfil his promise? (Kalimat
     alFasl by Mirza Basheer Ahmad, Review of Religions
     p.105, No.3, vol.14)

On the basis of above, Mirza Basheer Ahmad declared:

   * "With the coming of Promised Messiah one difference (in
     the meaning of Kalima) has occured and that is that
     before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning
     of 'Mohammad ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone
     days were included, BUT with the advent of Promised
     OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam
     it is still the same Kalima, the only difference is
     that the advent of Promised Messiah has added one more
     propet to its meaning...we don't need a new Kalima,
     because Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy
     Prophet, as he says: 'saara wujoodi wujoodahoo (my
     person became his person)' and 'he who differentiates
     between me     and Mustafa has not seen me and not
     recognises me'.....thus Promised Messiah is Mohammad
     Rasoolullah himself who has come again in tis world to
     spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima.
     Yes if someone else had come then we may have required
     it --- thus think all of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by
     Mirza Basheer Ahmad)
   * "As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah (the
     Qadiani Mirza) a difference has cropped up (in the
     meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the
     Promised Messiah (the Qadiani Mirza) in the world as a
     prophet, the words Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah) included in
     their meaning only such prophets as had preceded him;
     but after the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (the
     Qadiani Mirza) in the world as a prophet, one more
     prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur
     Rasoolu Llah. Therefore on account of the incarnation
     of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah, God forbid, does
     not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly.
     In short, the same Kalima is (effective) even now for
     embracing Islam, with the only difference that the
     incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Qadiani) has
     added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur
     Rasool Llah". (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158, by Mirza
     Bashir Ahmad Qadiani)
   * "Moreover, even if we accept by supposing the
     impossible that the sacred name of the Gracious Prophet
     (pbuh) has been included in the sacred Kalimah because
     He is the Last of the Prophets, even then there is no
     harm and we do not need a new Kalima because the
     Promised Messiah is not a separate entity from the
     gracious Prophet as he (Mirza) himself says: "My being
     is exactly the being of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah". Also,
     "One who discriminates between me and Mustafa has
     neither recognized me nor seen me". And the reason for
     this is Allah Almighty's promise that He would
     reincarnate "Khatam un Nabieen" in this world once more
     as a prophet as is evident from the verse "And others
     of them... Thus the Promised Messiah (Mirza of Qadian)
     is himself Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah, who has been
     incarnated in the world again to spread Islam. We do
     not, therefore, need any new Kalima. Albeit, a new
     Kalima would have been necessary, if some other person
     had been reincarnated instead of Muhammadur Rasool
     Llah. So contemplate!" (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158)

Does one need any more proof to know what do
qadianis/ahmadis mean when they recite     the MUSLIM

No doubt Allah is 100% correct when he says:

Transliteration Iza_ ja_akal muna_fiqu_na qa_lu_ nashadu in
naka larasu_lul la_h; wal la_hu yalamu in naka larasu_luh;
wal la_hu yas hadu in nal muna_fiqina taka_zibu_n

"When the Hypocrites come to thee, they say "We bear witness
that thou art indeed the Apostle of Allah."Yes Allah knoweth
that thou art indeed His Apostle and Allah beareth witness
that the Hypocrites are indeed liars. (AlQuran 63:1)


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