[qadianism] Re: Fwd: Refutation of Qadiani Quotes and Arguments - General Response
By umaraadil @excite.com
5:22am
Sat
27
Feb



The points that you have listed below are part and parcel of the
discussion now underway in these exchanges. Dr. Rashid's 
articulation of the Muslim viewpoint does not make him a "liar".
The use of abusive language against Dr. Rashid exemplifies the 
"ad hominem" (attacks against a person making a point, 
rather than answering the issue) approach used by the qadianis 
as a means of damage control whenever their position becomes 
untenable, as happens rather frequently.

> > 
> > On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:01 +0100, Ch. Muzafar Ah. Shiraz wrote:
> > 
> > >  umaraadi-@excite.com  schrieb:
> > >=20
> > > > Once again, I ask you to articulate for us the "lies" of Dr. Rashid.
> > You
> > > > have not answered the question. You have only dealt in an irrelevant
> > > > accusation against the mullahs. The mullahs are not here to defend
> > > > themselves from your open-ended accusation. Dr. Rashid is. So please
> > tell us
> > > > what these lies are, and stop using abusive language.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >=20
> > > You want to know the lies, just read this:
> > >=20
> > > >From Dr Rashid=B4s homepage:
> > > I am sure you will agree with my following statements regarding your
> > beliefs:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > D.Rashid You have your own prophet/messiah.
> > > My Answer: He is Messiah for whole World
> > >=20
> > > D.R You have your own holy books (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and Tadzkirah).
> > > MA: The only Holy Book is The Holy Quran, these books are from him and
> we
> > don=B4t
> > > ignore these books.
> > >=20
> > > D.R Going to Qadian is a Shadow Hajj. ( tell me where you get it from)
> > >=20
> > > MA: Let us go to Makkah and we will do there Hajj, one thing I will do
> > hajj, and
> > > nobody can stop me, and Allmighty Allah will help me to do it
> InshAllah.
> > >=20
> > > D.R: When you recite the Kalima-e-Tayeba, in your heart you believe
> that
> > the
> > > person of Mirza is included in it
> > >=20
> > > MA:  The biggest lie which I ever heard in my life INNA LILLAH WA INNA
> > ALAIHAI
> > > RAJEOON, ASTAGHFARULLAH HA RABI.
> > >=20
> > > D.R When you recite Durood Shareef (Salaat 'ala Rasoolullah), in your
> > hearts
> > > you are including Mirza Ghulam in it.
> > >=20
> > > MA: Another biggest lie. I don=B4t know where you get this from.
> > >=20
> > > And now tell me Is he lieing or not? and you claim to Hazrat Masih
> Maood
> > that he
> > > is NAUZOBILLAH lieing.
> > >=20
> > > Have you guys see the guestbook of Dr. Rashid=B4s Homepage,
> ASTAGHFARULLA=
> > H
> > which
> > > kind of Langauge the all Muslims using there.
> > >=20
> > > And I am sure, when like you believe Hazrat Isa (AS) will be here, this
> > will the
> > > same situation like now, he will claim and all will declare him, but
> this
> > won=B4t
> > > happen, because He had died.
> > >=20

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